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  • Do you think PFD's should be manditory under certain scenarios?

    For example when under full power, during a storm, navigating in the fog, for those that can't swim 5 miles. I don't want my Government to tell me how to be safe but sometimes it's the logical and smart thing to do. I always have my inflatable on as well as my wife 100% of the time, now I feel nude if I don't don it. I don't demand everyone don a life jacket but I used to, I'm tired of trying to make stupid people smart, or smart people less ignorant. I have a spare inflatable and offer it to my 1st mate when there only 2 of us fishing. 4 is max in my boat and some people ask where they are so they can put them on, mostly smart women. I love when people tell me they are good swimmers because they can do 5 laps in a heated 20 foot swimming pool with zero waves. The question is can you swim to shore or tread water for 30 minutes or more and usually 5 miles or more from shore?

    There was a day seat belts were an option, helmets on Motorcycles or children on bikes weren't required and everyone could talk in the cell phone driving. So not all laws are bad or intrusive.

    What do you think about PFD's on boats ?
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    Around here they are mandatory for anyone 12 and under. I never wear one but have it within arms reach in case it is needed, unless I am thrown out of the boat for some reason. As long as there are enough for everyone on the boat I don't think it should be mandatory.

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    • #3
      The lake I frequent most requires PFDs 100% on boats under 16ft, no matter what style boat, and regardless of age....

      LOTS of chop from wind often @ long narrow lake and then add a bunch of other boaters and it gets really choppy....
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      • #4
        No. There are so many laws that aren't enforced anyway, and plenty that just cost us all more $. I you're not smart enough to wear a PFD when you should, well...

        Should there be a law requiring you to wear a helmet when you are doing something that could result in your head being hit - like, almost all the time?

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        • #5
          When I'm sea trialing a boat, I always wear my inflatable because I am focused on running the boat and on how it's running...not my own safety.

          When I'm running the taxi (PFD not required for pass or crew), I don't wear one myself...mostly because passengers are uneasy to see the skipper wearing one while they aren't (though they're available for all). Kids (too young to don their own) have to wear one because, if the worst happens, the adults on board can focus on donning their own instead of suiting up their kids first.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Old Ironmaker View Post
            The question is can you swim to shore or tread water for 30 minutes or more and usually 5 miles or more from shore?
            It's not the fall that kills you..it's the sudden stop.....lol

            People die in bath tubs. It doesn't matter if your 5 miles or 50 feet from shore.

            More people die of hyperthermic and heart related issues than drown. How long would an Olympic swimmer survive treading water in 50 degree water? Not long, and that's only if they survive the cold shock response when they first hit the water.

            FWIW: Maryland regs....Kids under 13 are required to wear life jackets while under way
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            • #7
              On a water taxi you should wear one if it's an open boat. Not because of passengers being uneasy, but so you can focus on what's important if the need arises - Passenger safety and assistance. In a land taxi, the driver wears a seatbelt and fares aren't put off.
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              • #8
                I wear one at all times in my boat.

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                • #9
                  Everyone always thinks they don't need to wear one , till they find themselves needing one. Accidents happen fast and you don't always have time to grab one. With that being said I'm guilty of not wearing one well underway. And although I consider myself a reasonable good swimmer , 99% of the time when I jump in the lake I wear a life jacket.
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                  • #10
                    No.

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                      • #12
                        I personally think wearing a PFD should be mandatory for those under 16. If it were law that someone taking anyone out on their boat would be fully liable for the death or injury of anyone on their boat regardless of cause that do not wear a PFD many will be wearing one or stay home.
                        Last edited by Old Ironmaker; December 14th, 2017, 06:57 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Most states in the US do have age-based mandatory PFD usage laws.
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                          • #14
                            Does the government have an interest in the outcome of such a law? Most definitely. Recovering the bodies of drowning victims, the vast majority of whom are not wearing PFDs, generally falls to governmental agencies. I imagine it's also pretty traumatic for for those doing the recovery.
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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by Old Ironmaker View Post
                              If it were law that someone taking anyone out on their boat would be fully liable for the death or injury of anyone on their boat
                              If?

                              Under current law the captain is ultimately responsible for all aspects of operation such as the safe navigation, cleanliness, seaworthiness and management of all personnel,etc.

                              When taking a boat under tow, you become responsible for all aspects of that vessel's operation as well.
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